Silent tai chi with Elle and Oona
Oona built a shadowbox for me to do my over-the-couch-art series. I could have done it and it would have taken much longer.
There’s room to rez it temporarily on the side of my studio to have other people to pose in. That was my original wish. I don’t want to schedule it. Maybe I’ll IM people when they’re in the area and ask for them to come over and pose.
I’ve since used this in my storyboard project for April. It makes the visual more difficult to see but I can always go back to the other way for May. Anyway, I will use this for my little project.
I was curious to learn how a conversation between Newton and I might go so I asked his sister, RMarie, to approach him with the suggestion. We had never run into each other at MU, I was surely not on his radar and all he had to go on was whatever RMarie told him.
My plan was for us to talk and then I’d write about it which I soon found too difficult to do and not simply because of time constraints this week. I am constantly reminded that my perceptions and views are very different that those of others and I doubted that what I might write would be recognizable to Newton at all. I removed the time stamps, made a space between the lines of dialogue and corrected a few typos, then got permission to post our chat here.
Pearl Grey: Hello
Newton: is this to your liking?
Pearl Grey: Yes; am I dressed properly for this place?
Newton: if you are comfortable then yes – but if you would feel better in something else, then have at it!
Pearl Grey: I’m comfortable but I could use a drink
Pearl Grey: I just came from Drinking and Drawing class and just had tea
Newton: ah, that’s not drinking at all
Newton: please allow me to get you a glass of champagne
Pearl Grey: No it surely isn’t. I would love some champagne, thank you.
Newton has given you this object:
Glass of Champagne
Pearl Grey: Thank you!
Newton: you’re welcome
Newton tries to get rid of his cig
Newton: have a seat
Pearl Grey: Your sister hasn’t told me much about you, we talk of other things. Sure
Pearl Grey looks around. “This is a really interesting place. I like it.”
Newton: this place has a very very long history
Newton: events here mark many SLifetimes for Marie
Newton: it’s one of the best deco places imo
Newton: understated but nicely surreal
Newton: maybe deco is the wrong word
Newton: it has a nice surrealist vibe and retro
Newton: One of the owners used t publish a magazine called Retropolitan
Pearl Grey: Yes; I’ve not seen any place like it.
Pearl Grey: Oh cool!
Newton: The magazine covered all things Retro
Newton: marie can show you an old copy
Pearl Grey: I would love that. I’ll ask her next time I see her.
Pearl Grey: So this is a place for philosophical discussions. Not like complaining in a bar after work.
Newton: Oh, it’s absolutely a place for complaining
Newton: and a great place for showing up to alone
Newton: or a great secret place to bring a SLover or gal pal to commisserate
Newton: they have events occasionally
Pearl Grey: I see. Well the champagne is excellent here.
Newton: and a steady, diehard crew
Newton: yes it’s cheap but dry
Pearl Grey: I will add this to my list of haunts
Newton: they used to have a rat infestation
Newton: looks like they may have taken care of that
Pearl Grey: Oh my…..nothing glamorous about rats at all
Pearl Grey: They don’t tend to inspire
Newton: No they do not
Newton: the best drink here is gin late at night when your eyeballs are throbbing
Pearl Grey: I will have to remember that.
Pearl Grey: Sometimes I’m up late at night and need some refreshment.
Newton: you never know who you’ll run into here
Pearl Grey: Yes; that is always fun.
Newton: mostly eccentrics
Pearl Grey: I love eccentrics.
Pearl Grey: When they are civil.
Newton: well, there’s the rub 🙂
Pearl Grey: Yes; there it is.
Newton: pardon me for checking your age
Pearl Grey: I am old enough to drink!
Pearl Grey: I have fine lines around my eyes….see.
Newton: ok, I believe you
Newton: well after a certain amount of time here
Newton: Granted, I rarely go out
Newton: but for Marie
Pearl Grey: She likes to go out; I know
Newton: a certain aspect of common courtesy – certain types of expectations – were struck from the ledger. Not in terms of hurting others but in terms of “mutual obligation”
Pearl Grey: We both like to explore the mainland and she knows a lot of older places. Oh…..do expand on “mutual obligation”.
Newton: Yes she loves to explore and to share places
Newton: Of course places on SL are finite
Newton: but even after 5 years they feel infinite
Newton: and the older areas seem to have the best
Newton: well there was something about the primary and the mediated posted on MU Talk today
Pearl Grey: Yes, I’ve noticed they seem more unique….not all the same atmosphere or look
Newton: Frequently in SL we come to expect a primary experience, whereas there are so many more variables involved in even the most minute communications
Pearl Grey: Oh I didn’t see that.
Pearl Grey laughs. “Oh now I remember, but I thought it was about something else.”
Newton: she may have missed the point when she jumped on the sex metaphor
Newton: who knows
Pearl Grey: It brought some thoughts to mind that may not be relevant. What did you think. I didn’t actually go into the article yet.
Newton: I just wanted to hear people throw out some examples of virtual situations or experiences which are primary to the metaverse
Pearl Grey: Give me an example
Newton: I’m not as interested in virtuality juxtaposed against or defined by RL, and I think you may relate
Newton: in the article, the metaphor for primary versus mediated was sex
Newton: and how you can’t have a primary experience here, with that
Pearl Grey: Well I am having just a bit of trouble understanding what you mean but I might.
Pearl Grey: Right
Newton: which is almost subjective in itself
Pearl Grey: My typist can’t taste this champagne.
Pearl Grey: But I can go skiing and she can’t.
Pearl Grey: Something like that?
Pearl Grey: Yes
Pearl Grey: I’ve found that I don’t care for bright color so much here.
Pearl Grey: But my biological agent likes color in her organic veggies.
Pearl Grey: in flowers
Newton: stir fried chroma
Pearl Grey: and stained glass.
Pearl Grey: But I love the Victorian age here which she has little chance to indulge in.
Pearl Grey: So maybe it is about realistic expectations?
Newton: what we consider to be realistic expectations in RL don’t necessarily apply to SL
Newton: either you get a lot more – too much too fast – or you get nothing like what you expected
Pearl Grey: Right
Newton: walking around with no expectations may not be healthy to cultivate
Newton: I haven’t decided
Pearl Grey: So….no I think having a focus helps to save time.
Pearl Grey: And some standards
Pearl Grey: People tend to pick up on it if you don’t have a purpose and they can sometimes write their purpose onto your blank seeming slate.
Newton: yeah but it’s usually not deliberate
Newton: most people see this as recreation
Pearl Grey: I guess so. I used to take it personally.
Pearl Grey: Yes, I know i do.
Newton: You do, but if you take things personally then maybe you don’t
Newton: I’m only stating that because of things I’ve pondered about my own reactions
Newton: but I’m not you of course
Pearl Grey: I used to take it personally when people seemed to want me to be their personal assistant and minion when I just wanted to relax and play.
Pearl Grey: What reactions did you ponder?
Newton: oh yes, i’ve thought about that too
Pearl Grey: Do say….
Newton: how you get involved in a project and there’s always a hierarchy — but that’s ok if you can step back and sort of enjoy the whole. Things disappear soon enough
Pearl Grey: Yes; I need to be more alert to the time to step back.
Newton: Well for me it was just this feeling like — are love and trust really so simple
Pearl Grey: Of course they aren’t simple. That’s why we all have so much difficulty with them.
Pearl Grey: Most of us anyway.
Newton: Well I mean keep doing what you’re doing and wordlessly step back
Newton: keep contributing but know that nothing ever happens the way we expect it to
Pearl Grey: Yes, that is what a wise person would do.
Newton: passion does get in the way
Pearl Grey: But I over explain everything which is like stepping into quicksand.
Pearl Grey: I should just shut up instead of saying, “Wait a minute……” and just go on doing what I intended.
Newton: it’s interesting to observe what we take seriously an what we do not
Newton: This place gives a perspective RL doesn’t
Pearl Grey: Yes it does
Pearl Grey: You seem very serious to me.
Pearl Grey: At least in what I’ve read on MU Talk
Newton: One could argue I’m not as fully developed as Marie
Newton: But I know I’m serious
Newton: I know I don’t think the way my sister does, or articulate myself that way
Newton: and I also know I’m treated far differently
Pearl Grey: That isn’t a bad thing at all.
Pearl Grey: In what way?
Newton: Women are nicer to me
Pearl Grey: Well you do look interesting and stylish.
Newton: Yes I suppose I am dashing
Pearl Grey: And have a great haircut too…yes.
Pearl Grey: Maybe Marie can be more playful?
Newton: Well she’s got a serious responsibility
Newton: of sorts
Pearl Grey: I know she does although she doesn’t talk about it much.
Newton: It’s true she doesn’t play much
Pearl Grey: Usually we explore or just chat. Oh really?
Newton: Is exploring playing?
Pearl Grey: Well maybe I’m a sort of bad influence on her sometimes? The way I do it is.
Pearl Grey: I usually don’t have an agenda.
Pearl Grey: And am not afraid to waste time looking at something that the arbiters call “less than stellar.”
Pearl Grey: Maria and I sat in the poppies at MU one time.
Pearl Grey: An odd sort of place to talk some might think.
Newton: That sounds fairly playful
Pearl Grey: It seemed normal to me…but she went along with it. In fact, it might have been her idea.
Pearl Grey: When I mentioned the color….they are some bright colors that I like.
Newton: Yes, I think it was 🙂
Newton: But no matter
Newton: you may have inspired it!
Pearl Grey: Well I like to be inspiring.
Pearl Grey: I am not an intellectual girl.
Pearl Grey: I like when diverse people can communicate and play with mutual respect and I’m curious about people.
Pearl Grey: But I don’t want to annoy them. Which is why I asked Marie if I could meet with you.
Newton: Well that is appreciated
Pearl Grey: And this champagne is quite wonderful!
Pearl Grey: So one thing I picked up on the MU Talk comment
Pearl Grey: that I haven’t looked into further
Pearl Grey: is that ummm…..Sl can help one discern and appreciated one’s primary experience more?
Newton: I don’t know
Pearl Grey: Oh well then ever mind.
Newton: I don’t think RL and SL should be so interdependent in these discussions
Newton: for example
Newton: I passed around a paper for cafe sophistry and in it, they were discussing how people who are african american in RL tended to make white avatars if all the other avatars are white
Newton: the odd thing is, the underlying assumption of the study was that people want to be anything like themselves here at all
Pearl Grey: ok
Newton: or should want to be
Newton: I mean
Newton: I think many (I don’t know how many) people come here to really be NOT what they are in RL
Newton: This isn’t a “bigger” RL
Newton: it’s a totally different place
Newton: (from my perspective)
Pearl Grey: True
Pearl Grey: People want to be younger and healthier here.
Pearl Grey: From what I’ve experienced.
Pearl Grey: I know some people want to be a gender they identify with.
Pearl Grey: Well yes; I’ve talked with people who are having real life gender reassignment.
Pearl Grey: And their avatars are the gender they want to be.
Newton: Yes sure
Newton: I think people want to be whatever they want to explore
Newton: or it’s something more serious as you say
Pearl Grey: And of course my biological agent has never met a dragon, vampire or neko.
Pearl Grey: I didn’t attend your Cafe meetings because they are early and I didn’t quite understand what it was about. I do hate to feel like an interloper.
Newton: Well, you are always welcome
Newton: the 29th will be a time when people present some work possibly
Newton: we will see
Pearl Grey: The next one is the end of the….right.
Newton: I wasn’t really available for the impromptu session where we kicked gold into the crevasse and burned transcripts
Newton: but that may have been the last huzza for section 1
Pearl Grey: Well I write stuff and slap pictures I like on plywood prims so I doubt if I would have any work. Oh that was short notice right?
Newton: It was fine
Newton: come if you like, even to appreciate what others do
Pearl Grey: Isn’t one of the sessions about time?
Newton: The next one
Pearl Grey: That one might be interesting. My sense of time is way more fluid these days.
Pearl Grey: Might want to see what others come up with.
Newton: It’s very personal
Newton: The first topic was, of course
Pearl Grey: The 29th will be here sooner than we imagine now.
Newton: Yes it will and so shall midnight
Pearl Grey: Yes, I imagine so.
Pearl Grey laughs.
Pearl Grey: You need your beauty sleep?
Newton: Pretty soon
Pearl Grey: Well of course, just say when.
Pearl Grey: Anything you’d like to tell me about yourself since we are so rarely on campus at the same time?
Newton: are you typing
Pearl Grey: typing?
Newton: The IM said “Pearl Grey is typing”
Pearl Grey: I am slinging the camera around and drinking champagne
Pearl Grey: So speak if you wish.
Newton: I don’t have much to say about my self
Pearl Grey: OK
Newton: anything you’d like to say about you
Pearl Grey: You like to think and speak of ideas
Pearl Grey: Oh nothing to add
Pearl Grey: I think I talk rather a lot.
Newton: Yes and preen
Pearl Grey: Yes, you do look rather well groomed.
Newton: and smoke
Pearl Grey: And I see you manage to keep from getting yellow nails from the smokes
Pearl Grey: And your teeth look great too.
Newton: Yes,and i go home and use my scrub brush while listening to podcasts
Newton: They do?
Pearl Grey: Probably looking dashing helps people listen better than looking like a hobo. Yes they do. Please don’t tell me that you’re a vampire.
Pearl Grey: Good
Newton: I have no interest in special blood types
Newton: Medici is probably the most focused thing I’ve done here
Newton: Otherwise I’ve been a bit of a bon vivant
Pearl Grey: Do I have permission to write about you on my blog? It’s a little project I’m having fun with. Oh really? Medici takes some focus.
Pearl Grey: I see. We must have been going to different places.
Newton: I’ve collected a bit of art
Pearl Grey: I’m usually found tromping down the road. Art collecting is great!
Newton: I can’t hold a candle to my sister in that regard
Newton: but yes
Newton: Yes, I’d love to see what you plan to do
Newton: Thank you for being intrigued
Pearl Grey: Well I was curious about whether we could have a conversation.
Pearl Grey: I was a little intimidated and thought it would be a challenge and good experience.
Pearl Grey: I have enjoyed our talk.
Newton: So have I – we should come back here again and dance
Pearl Grey: Maybe I will see you around MU sometime.
Newton: Alright Pearl
Pearl Grey: You should. It looks like a wonderful place and you need a break.
Newton: we all do from time to time
Pearl Grey: From thinking.
Pearl Grey: and thinking about what others are thinking.
Pearl Grey: Thank you for the champagne
Newton: Certainly Pearl
Pearl Grey: It has been a pleasure meeting you.
Newton: and you – thank you for your invitation
Pearl Grey: And I think highly of your sister, of course.
Newton: Ah well she does say the same of you
Newton: that was why I agreed to this meeting
Pearl Grey: Oh wonderful!
Pearl Grey: Yes, I wondered if you would be too busy.
Pearl Grey: But am glad you made the time.
Newton: Indeed, so am I Pearl
Pearl Grey: So I will leave you to your sleep. I have a few places to go before I’m done for the evening.
Newton: Ah, enjoy your exploring!
Pearl Grey: Thanks you! Take care Newton.
Newton: I may take a brief look around here
Newton: Good night Pearl
Newton: See you soon
Pearl Grey: Yes, there is an odd spirit box thing in the corner. Watch out for that.
Newton: I’m going to wait to commune with the spirits till a little later
Pearl Grey smiles and poofs.